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Can Allderdice win The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby CityLeageRep » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:28 pm

Can Taylor Allderdice win the Allegheny County Tournament? I do not know what I do know is they are a top 10 team and even possibly top 5 in then county. Allderdice will need all of their stars to preform as good as the seed they got or better and the supporting cast has to have a good run and win some matches.

Standout wrestlers

113 Dorian Long-Devaugh 12-0
138 Ean Disilvio 12-1
145 Dillon Mulvihill 7-1
152 Brian Estep 13-0
160 Cameron Jacobsen 10-3
182 Jalyn Wilkins 11-2

Wrestlers that have to have some wins for Allderdice to place top 5
120 Isiah Sappy 3-2
126 Josh Zinkovsky 7-4
HWY Pat Ferguson 7-4

Good Luck Allderdice
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby kreitzer » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:09 pm

Wow, that is taking the Lloyd Christmas approach!
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby alethia » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:30 pm

I have to say that I am happy that this team has something to get fired up about. The city needs wrestling to grow. Every year we see kids in the county tournament that are so tough from some of these city schools, and you wonder why they haven't been wrestling since they were little and throttling people. Hopefully this will inspire some people to get their kids out for the sport and to help it grow.

Now, that being said. Allderdice is not anywhere near winning this tournament. Just an example of what you need to be ready to do here: Mt. Lebanon last year had a finalist and 5 other place winners. They placed 12th.

But good luck, as I think you may need it.
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby CityLeageRep » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:37 pm

Allderdice is in 9th place after 1st day and look to contiune they great run and send the following 3 to the finals
138 Ean Disilvio 12-1
145 Dillon Mulvihill 7-1
152 Brian Estep 13-0

2 points away from Plum and 2.5 from 7th place Mt. Lebo...Allderdice has 66 Points

120 Isiah Sappy 3-2
160 Cameron Jacobsen 10-3
182 Jalyn Wilkins 11-2
195 Rainier Smith
HWY Pat Ferguson 7-4
All of the above are looking to place in this years tourney good luck

Looks like Allderdice is on pace to finish the highest ever for a District 8 team.
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby lightcounter » Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:20 pm

Even with the benefit of generous seeding they finished 12th:

1. North Allegheny 240, 2. Hampton 203.5, 3. Central Catholic 183, 4. South Fayette 170.5, 5. North Hills 164, 6. Mt. Lebanon 117, 7. Plum 104, 8.
Shaler 98.5, 9. Upper St. Clair 98, 10. West Allegheny 95.5, 11. Chartiers Valley 95, 12. Allderdice 94, 13. Fox Chapel 92, 14. West Mifflin 92,
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby Rick » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:55 pm

By far.... THE BEST bout of the Allegheny County finals was 152 - Kyle Coniker, PCC by RO in UTB, 4-4 over Brian Estep, Allderdice.

PCC's early-season meat-grinder schedule vs. Allderdice's relative inactivity was the difference in this one. The better conditioned athlete was just a little stronger when the clock struck 8:30.

Estep was the superior wrestler, but he had no gas in his tank at the end. Coniker had just a few fumes left.

Why bring this up?

If Estep pulls out the win, the Dragons finish tied for ninth with USC at 98 points, just one-half point behind the young Shaler Titan upstarts.
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby CityLeageRep » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:22 pm

lightcounter wrote:Even with the benefit of generous seeding they finished 12th:

1. North Allegheny 240, 2. Hampton 203.5, 3. Central Catholic 183, 4. South Fayette 170.5, 5. North Hills 164, 6. Mt. Lebanon 117, 7. Plum 104, 8.
Shaler 98.5, 9. Upper St. Clair 98, 10. West Allegheny 95.5, 11. Chartiers Valley 95, 12. Allderdice 94, 13. Fox Chapel 92, 14. West Mifflin 92,


Mr. lightcounter you always have positive things to say of course...you must of missed my woulda, coulda, shoulda post on the open forum about the Dice well here it is below:
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Allderdice is in 9th place after 1st day but all I keep saying is Should, Coulda and Woulda....
all have advanced to the semis...
138 Ean Disilvio 12-1
145 Dillon Mulvihill 7-1
152 Brian Estep 13-0

and the following are in wrestle backs
120 Isiah Sappy 3-2
160 Cameron Jacobsen 10-3
182 Jalyn Wilkins 11-2
195 Rainier Smith
HWY Pat Ferguson 7-4

Shoulda had more Team points if #3 seed Dorian and #7 Josh wrestled
113 Dorian Long-Devaugh 12-0 (Coach disiplined)
126 Josh Zinkovsky 7-4 (Skin)

Coulda had even more Team Points if Pat was returning to wrestle the 2nd day
HWY Pat Ferguson (College Visit)

WOULDA made history for District 8 and placed high somewhere in the top 5 (ok top 10)

BUT
Team Allderdice is putting on a great show and I hope they do finish in the top 15 this season ...
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Allderdice still had the highest place for a City school ever and to add their 170 didnt make it to the tourney also ...I wonder how any of they school ahead of Taylor Gang would of done if a 3rd and 7th seed didnt wrestle and a returning guy had to miss the second day...and 1 non seeded wrestler miss the tourney ....with all that said the Dice did a great job.
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby Rick » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:39 pm

When might we see some City League rankings?
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby kreitzer » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:57 pm

Great job by Allderdice, no doubt! Good for wrestling, I think. I really hope that the City League continues to improve. They may never win the Counties, but they gained respect. They really didn't have a chance to win or even make the top five, but still, I am happy for them and hope they continue to do well.
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby CityLeageRep » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:30 pm

Rick wrote:By far.... THE BEST bout of the Allegheny County finals was 152 - Kyle Coniker, PCC by RO in UTB, 4-4 over Brian Estep, Allderdice.

PCC's early-season meat-grinder schedule vs. Allderdice's relative inactivity was the difference in this one. The better conditioned athlete was just a little stronger when the clock struck 8:30.

Estep was the superior wrestler, but he had no gas in his tank at the end. Coniker had just a few fumes left.

Why bring this up?

If Estep pulls out the win, the Dragons finish tied for ninth with USC at 98 points, just one-half point behind the young Shaler Titan upstarts.


I have to agree that the match was a great on to watch but stating that "Allderdice's relative inactivity was the difference in this one" is very incorrect". Alllderdice's coach put together a full schedule ...

12/07 - 12/08/2012 Eastern Area Invitational Tournament, PA
12/12/2012 TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA 66 WESTINGHOUSE HS, PA 15
12/17/2012 TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA @ CARLYNTON HS, PA
12/19/2012 CARRICK HS, PA @ TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA
12/28/2012 erie falcon duals, PA Varsity
» CENTRAL HS (Erie), PA 51 TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA 27
» TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA 35 CRANBERRY AREA HS, PA 30
» TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA 60 EAST HS, PA 18 12:00 a.m. Varsity
TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA 45 STRONG VINCENT HS, PA 19
TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA 59 IROQUOIS HS, PA 12
01/03/2013 TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA 58 BRASHEAR HS, PA 22
01/09/2013 TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA 54 PERRY TRADITIONAL ACAD, PA 27
01/11 - 01/12/2013 allegheny county tournament, PA
01/17/2013 TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA @ OBAMA HS, PA
01/18 - 01/19/2013 Burgettstown Invitational, PA
01/26/2013 Chartiers Valley team duals, PA
02/04/2013 TAYLOR ALLDERDICE HS, PA @ AVONWORTH HS, PA

Were you watching the same match as me? Estep wrestled well the whole way and nearly got the 2 at the end of regulation. He pushed it in ot and took like 4 shot before he lost. If you have seen Estep before (previous years) he kinda always looks slugish in matches but wrestles good. Not to many people end the season with no losses and he lost to a good wrestler. Its always something about a city school ...they dont wrestle enough, dont work hard enough, not experienced enough...not in this case. Allderdice has a good schedule and Estep works hard and really was the agressor in the match too bad he lost.
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby Rick » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:59 am

So let me ge this straight... While PCC was wrestling, unquestionably, one of the toughest high school schedules in the country, Allderdice was at Eastern Area; wrestled its City League schedule; and competed at something called the Falcon Duals in Erie.

Which wrestler faced better competition in the first month of the season? Which athlete was better prepared to wrestle 8 1/2 minutes? That was my point, in addition to supporting your argument that Allderdice had a pretty good tournament.

Yes... I watched the same match as you... the Allderdice wrestler couldn't finish his shots and he couldn't escape in UTB. If his team wrestled a schedule like PCC's, he would have won by at least four points in regulation.
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby Mr Blondey » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:20 am

i'm going to agree w/ Mr Smith on this one, 'rep. The 'burgh is basically WPIAL, one of, if not THEE, toughest conference around. Dice has an OK dual team, and a very solid tournament team. There is no cieling, Nyama broke it into a million pieces last season. If you want to be the best, wrestle the best, and you'll get there, that's the equation. Good showing, but could have been better. A team like TA should, in my opinion should have been top 10, and maybe even top 5. I appreciate you're points, I do, but that only looks at one side of the equation, not at the other side (like, what similar situations plagued other teams). Expect to win, and don't settle, and don't coddle. The season's not over, reach for more and screw what anyone sais can't be done. You have City duals, state tourney, and regionals, then indi states. Go out there and win.
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby marcon » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:03 pm

Estep would have won that match easily if he had a workout partner like say, Synan, kosczak, Hart?
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby CityLeageRep » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:10 pm

marcon wrote:Estep would have won that match easily if he had a workout partner like say, Synan, kosczak, Hart?


I dont think that his partners are all that bad at the Dice.

138 Ean Disilvio State Q
145 Dillon Mulvihill
152 Brian Estep
160 Cameron Jacobsen - former youth state placer x2

So were most of you guys thinking Estep was finishing the season undefeated...Why is it so hard to understand he just lost a match...
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Re: Can Allderdice when The Allegheny County Tournament?

Postby marcon » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:25 am

CityLeageRep wrote:
marcon wrote:Estep would have won that match easily if he had a workout partner like say, Synan, kosczak, Hart?


I dont think that his partners are all that bad at the Dice.

138 Ean Disilvio State Q
145 Dillon Mulvihill
152 Brian Estep
160 Cameron Jacobsen - former youth state placer x2

So were most of you guys thinking Estep was finishing the season undefeated...Why is it so hard to understand he just lost a match...


Not at all. I think he is a fine wrestler, I just expected his first loss would come at the hands of someone who will qualify for PIAA's. I dont think Coniker will this year, given some others in the brackett. (coles, rinehart, skelly, austin) But, one never knows. Coniker looked tough.
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