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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby LU in NJ » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:32 pm

>>>>>>>> I prefaced my career 125 comment with the word ' possible' because we simply don't know how things will shake out.

All I know is Lane was a113 hs jr and he looks fairly tall and lean in the videos.

Army landed a lean, undersized hs lightweight (Kyler?) a few years back who grew, I believe, into an AA at 149.

I also recall a comment that Faro plans to go 125 as does Paetzell.

Add young Parker and Lane to the mix and Lehigh has some serious 125 talent.

2017 NCAA champ Darian Cruz. It's a great time to be a Lehigh wrestling fan.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby Spladle88 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:56 pm

LU in NJ wasn't trying to question you, just don't know much about either wrestler (Parker Jr. or Lane).

From pictures I've seen of the younger Parker with his brother and others he always seems smaller in stature but thicker (if you can be thicker at 120 lbs) than his older brother was when he arrived at Lehigh. Scotty seemed to have a longer skinnier frame when he arrived, so Matty from appearances to me looks like a career 125 lber. Really haven't seen much at all of Lane so was just wondering if he has the longer body type that often fills out and moves up weight classes (like Scotty did).

Either way you are correct with Paetzell and potentially Farro also in the mix we have a lot of depth in the 125 to 133 range for years to come (realistically we have a wealth of depth everywhere at the moment).

Are the thoughts that Gentile stays at 184 after his red shirt year? Gentile seemed like a thick (although not overly tall) 184.

Just making conversation, the world will not end wherever they end up............
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby WallyCKP » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:37 pm

No idea about Gentile's future weight but he's incredible at TDs when his game's on. Since I think he certified at 174 last year with no intention of going there last year, my guess is 184 for the foreseeable future.

I thought Damion Hahn was too short for 197 after going NCAA 5,5 but he went 44-1 and two titles after moving up mid-year as junior. Likewise, John Lockhart, Illinois, wasn't tall at 197 but moved up to place 3,1 at Hwt

PSU's McCutcheon is doing pretty well forced up to 197 despite "not being tall enough" there

Cruz is technically "too small" in height for 125.

One final post: the new freshman class has three very good recruits who could have easily been rated Top 75. Five PA finals appearances are five more than P.Santoro, Dillon, Preisch combined. You gotta' problem with that, you're part of the problem
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby John Henning » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:41 pm

WallyCKP wrote:One final post: the new freshman class has three very good recruits who could have easily been rated Top 75. Five PA finals appearances are five more than P.Santoro, Dillon, Preisch combined. You gotta' problem with that, you're part of the problem


>>>>>>>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's 5Xs as many.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby mh1 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:42 pm

Lil Parker and Lane will end up being huge additions to the starting lineup. Have watched Pennridge wrestling over last 10 years grow into a solid PA program. Stillings heading to Drexel is a great pick up for them. Gentile took one for the team last year and now gets his redshirt year and will be back next year. Scotty Parker is a super agressive Big 10 style wrestler and his brother is just as tough.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby WallyCKP » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:10 pm

HS places in PA: Pat 3; Brad 5,3 (@103 and 135); Preisch 3,3

You'd be correct if Pat's OW (1 yr with Buxton) counted at Blair but it was PG

I think Ed Ruth's one year at Blair (OW) was his sr year in HS, after Ed reached no finals first 3 yrs
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby Spladle88 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:04 pm

New Potential recruit according to Flo:

http://www.flowrestling.org/article/625 ... d0Lj1tSyUk
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby LUchico » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:27 pm

Wow. This kid is really good and looked to me (from the little video I've seen) that he has a lot of potential to get even better.
Plus he's at a size that could really fit nicely with Lehigh's needs a year or two hence.
Glad he's interested . Really hope he chooses Lehigh.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby trimanmatfan » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:38 pm

LUchico wrote:Wow. This kid is really good and looked to me (from the little video I've seen) that he has a lot of potential to get even better.
Plus he's at a size that could really fit nicely with Lehigh's needs a year or two hence.
Glad he's interested . Really hope he chooses Lehigh.


Coincidentally, the kid who beat him in overtime - Hidlay - also had LU on his short list a while back. I'd settle for one of the two.

Back to Ramirez, it seemed odd to me that he'd try a lateral drop - a move I assume is somewhat risky since he wound up on his back - early in scoreless overtime.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby LUchico » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:13 pm

trimanmatfan wrote:Back to Ramirez, it seemed odd to me that he'd try a lateral drop - a move I assume is somewhat risky since he wound up on his back - early in scoreless overtime.


It's a beautiful move, but which you tend to see more in high school I think. It's most effective when the opponent is pushing forward and the move uses his momentum against him. The more experienced wrestlers don't put themselves in that position, or at least not to the point where they get caught.
That said, one of the joys of watching D1 wrestling is that there are always guys who can do great things with a favorite practiced move, that they just shouldn't be able to. And when a lateral works, it is beautiful to watch, often ending in back points or a pin.
Didn't see the video you're referring to. I'll have to look for it.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby btown610 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:42 pm

They are preducted to be at different weights in college. Ramirez is predicted at 165 and Hidlay at 174/184. Its good to see Lehigh as a finalist. The Blair section was right by me at the event. Cornell and VA Tech definitely had the full court press on his mother. I don't blame them. He is a good recruit. Lehigh is lucky to be on both of their lists.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby LU in the Hub » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:10 pm

WallyCKP wrote:More facts for the marginally uninformed; just facts based on Top 100 recruits already on our roster, with yr of elig, HS places
Jordan Wood--- 10-- Fr-- 2,2,1
Luke Karam---- 15-- Fr-- 2,1,1,1
Chris Weiler---- 19-- Fr-- 2,1
Jordan Kutler-- 25-- So-- 1,5,1
Darian Cruz---- 45-- Sr-- 3,1,1
Jake Jakobsen- 46-- Fr-- 2,1
Kyle Gentile--- 64-- So-- 5,3
Scott Parker--- 66-- Jr-- 4,3,2
Cole Walter--- 82-- So-- 3,7,3,1
Ian Brown----- 92-- Jr-- 5,4,3,1
Matt Parker--- 93-- Fr-- 5,2,3
Jim Hoffman-- 95-- Fr-- 2,2
Kent Lane----- 97-- So-- 6,2,1
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That's 13 Top 100's -- probably a school record -- with only one senior and two juniors.


Well, most of the heat in this discussion is just a difference in opinion about performance at the end of the year and in recruiting. I tend to be a pessimist myself, so I do see some validity to the half-empty argument.

But, this is a pretty impressive array of talent. Looking forward to seeing what they can do this season, and hoping all the guys stay healthy and reach their potential.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby btown610 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:07 pm

Ramirez announced he is going to Cornell. The rich are getting richer. Another top 10 overall recruit heading to Cornell.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby WallyCKP » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:06 pm

Ouch. Yet another reminder of the modern landscape. 2nd Top 10 recruit lost to Ivies in one week

We didn' lose that many to them in a decade during 1970-85

Cruz just put us ahead of Penn for most NCAA champs since 1990

That's fact - but before 1995 I never thought it would be reportable
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Begins

Postby Ike-LU » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:03 pm

So when does this become a problem? not going to see the ramifications this year or next but the fall off is inevitable if you're not bringing in the guys. Spare me the talk about turning under the radar recruits into AAs. You might get a couple of those but if you're not bringing in the top HS guys around them the top 10 is out of the question. Love our current team but staring to get a little worried about the future. what gives?
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