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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby TwoCrows » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:38 pm

It was pointed out on the Penn State forum that Ryan Diehl Beat Jason Nolf 6 - 4 in the semis of the 2012 PIAA (AA) championships, thereby keeping Nolf from being a 4 time champ. Going back ann looking at the results of that tournament is interesting. Elliott Riddick, Darian and Randy Cruz (Lehigh), Jimmy Guilbon (Penn State) also won titles and have had successful college careers, as have other place winners Zeke Moisey, Nick Zanetta, Mike Racciato, and Peter Renda, to nname a few.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby MadHatter » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:16 am

Day 2 matchups:

Diehl caught a lucky break by advancing via medical forfeit. However he caught a very unlucky break when Tommy Thorn scored the second biggest upset of Day One by pinning Joey McKenna, sending him down to the consolation rounds where Diehl gets him. Tough break- Diehl gets the #3 and #4 guys in his first three matches. Diehl put together a nice B10 tourney and he really seemed to be getting everything together. But I just don't see him getting past McKenna.

Bannister gets Kargbo from George Mason, whom he beat in OT (2-1) back in December. Baby J seems to have opened up a bit more recently and is wrestling fairly well. If he gets past Kargbo, which he should, he'll get the winner of Coleman Hammond from Cal State, who just beat highly-regarded Davion Jeffries, and Wisconsin's Andrew Crone. Both of these guys are very beatable. Baby J just has to do what he does- open up, push the action from neutral, and operate from space. It's tough looking this far ahead, but if he can get these 2 wins, he'll be in position to wrestle the loser of Thomsen from Northern Iowa, and his old nemesis Theobold, whom he has split 1-point decisions with this season.

Hemida had a nice win in the first consolation round over Tynan from North Dakota State, a wrestler he lost to a few months back. Next up is Kosoy from NC State. NC State wrestlers are hard to judge- they usually carry nice W/L records, but they have a habit of not showing real well at NCAA's. Regardless, Kosoy got past Jensen in the first round, who blanked Hemida 9-0 just 2 weeks ago. If he gets past Kossy, he'll probably run into Billy Miller from Edinboro, who will be very tough.

To summarize: Diehl will need the match of his life to stay alive. Bannister has a very real shot at placing, with no obvious super-studs between him and All-American status. Hemida will have his work cut out for him, but he may do a bit more damage in the consolation brackets.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby MadHatter » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:31 am

TwoCrows wrote:It was pointed out on the Penn State forum that Ryan Diehl Beat Jason Nolf 6 - 4 in the semis of the 2012 PIAA (AA) championships, thereby keeping Nolf from being a 4 time champ. Going back ann looking at the results of that tournament is interesting. Elliott Riddick, Darian and Randy Cruz (Lehigh), Jimmy Guilbon (Penn State) also won titles and have had successful college careers, as have other place winners Zeke Moisey, Nick Zanetta, Mike Racciato, and Peter Renda, to nname a few.


TwoCrows, it's pretty fun to get lost down the rabbit hole of old bracket sheets- Pennsylvania in particular. State bracket sheets from PA are usually a who's who of future wrestling stars, and one can find lots of interesting results of future All-Americans and champions going against each other. Looking over the 2012 AA PA sheets, I see a few more: Ryan Preisch (Lehigh), Cody Law (Penn State), Tristan Sponseller (Lock Haven), Ray O'Donnell (Princeton), Ryan Solomon (Pitt).
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby Terpfan » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:29 pm

So, now that this disappointing year has finally ended, what news? It looks like Ohio State got a transfer from Pitt, and I imagine that nothing much will happen with MD, until the coaching situation is settled. I hope they make that decision quickly and give who ever is new a real chance to shake some trees to get some excitement back to the Terps. I thought it funny that Oklahoma State Basketball lost their coach the minute they were out of March Madness, and he went straight to Illini job. The Terps need to make a splash with the coach, as it seems much of the recruiting excitement for upcoming year is over.

My fingers are crossed that their will be some reason to come back and read this board in the next nine months.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby meats » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:24 pm

Terpfan, I could not agree with you more and your last sentence perfectly sums up my strong feelings as well. You hit the nail squarely on the head. I love this sport but I can no longer face the prospect of endless disappointing seasons with little or no confidence that things will ever get meaningfully better. Now is the time for the AD's office to demonstrate they actually care about the program. Anything less than a head coaching change will simply be too frustrating for me to handle. These are very nervous for serious Terp wrestling fans.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby ne125 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:45 am

Tick tock, tick tock……. You would think a decision one way or another would be made swiftly. However, when it comes to UMD Athletic Administration, nothing surprises me. It’s never a good thing when people with a very limited wrestling background make decisions about wrestling programs. That’s why our sport needs more allies in administration. I’m not saying that it would happen but it would be great IF they had decided to move on to then give Kerry an associate AD job. I think he would be very good at that. Coincidentally I heard that the administrator over wrestling is moving on. Who knows what implication that has on Kerry or his future as coach. Anyway, I would have thought we’d hear something by now but it can’t be too much sooner. However, the more times goes on, the more likely it is in my opinion that they are just working on a contract extension for Kerry. If they were going to move on, they’d need as much time as possible to find a replacement. There wouldn’t be any need to string this on. If Kerry does stay on, I hope that he can shake up his staff. Nothing against the guys on the staff but it’s hard to compete again their peers who have Donnie Pritzlaff, Sean Bormet, Mark Perry types as head assistants. These are guys who were incredible wrestlers, are well known in the wrestling community and known commodities as recruiters. All top programs have an elite assistant, if not two. Maybe if Kerry is extended it will be a signal to others that they’ll be on staff for a while & have some job security. I heard Kerry had difficulty finding a top assistant last year to replace Eiter because it was well known he was in a lame duck situation. This is not saying anything bad about Jimmy Sheptock as he’s great to have in our program but he doesn’t have the experience that other top assistants have. NCSU has Frank Beasley who is an ace recruiter. VA tech had Robie who now took over their program, UVA has Jordan Leen who’s been around and knows the ropes. You need a top assistant who is good enough to take over the program if the head coach leaves right away. This obviously isn’t the case here at UMD. Most of these top assistants are in their 30’s and 40’s which demonstrates the needed experience coaching at the college level.
I think our program has had an influx in talent but I know Eiter was the lead recruiter on some of these guys. He has a good reputation recruiter. If Kerry has a weakness, it is recruiting so hopefully they can get someone who can come in and fill that void. I’m not trying to be negative but recruiting rankings speak for themselves. Regardless of whomever is the next coach, the administration needs to step up and fund the assistant coaching positions better. I’m not saying Kerry isn’t accountable for our 2-16 record and 1 big ten win in 3 years because he is. However, they need to give him more resources to succeed. We should be a lot better next year IF guys stay healthy and put in a ton of work in the off season. I know I'm a broken record when I say that. In years past, guys were doing a lot more freestyle and Greco spring wrestling. I think this has died down some recently. Just my very amateur 2 cents.
Some big questions heading into next year:
• Beck has improved but Cray is the future. Can he add size and strength to deal with the big ten opponents?
• Is Tyler Goodwin coming back at 133? He has one more year left of eligibility. I heard why he wasn’t in the lineup and while bad, I wouldn’t think it was a career ender. If not, who the heck starts at 133?
• Diehl needs to stay down at 141 and keep improving in all areas. He should start out top 20 ranked
• Someone has to emerge at 157 whether it is Justin Alexander, Danny Boychuck or Wade Hodges. Those are three decent guys but one has to take a hold of the job and distance themselves from the pack. I heard recently that Rastrepo has a major injury and may not be back next year.
• Can Cochran step in day one and make an impact? I think he can.
• Can Uglade or Idris White take a huge leap up and be competitive at 174? Both have potential but had very challenging seasons.
• Is Jaron Smith healthy and able to compete at 84? (This & 133 are huge need weight classes to recruit)
• Whisler and Hemida need to get bigger, add strength.
*and Obviously, if Kerry is the coach, will he finally make some big changes in the off season?
IF Goodwin is back, we could start the year with 4 top 20 ranked wrestlers in Hemida, Bannister, Diehl and Goodwin.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby fitzi22 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:00 pm

I kinda figured the athletic department would complete a review of the wrestling program at the end of the season. You know, what we did, what we need to do, where we are and where we want to be sorta thing. This will probably take some time and is essential to make decisions moving forward. That being said the proformance of the team at the end of the year seriously boosted Kerry McCoy. As previously stated we will be returning 3 of our 4 NCAA qualifiers in addition to Cray coming off redshirt, Goodwin returning (hopefully but he will probably still only be good for 10 matches) and incoming freshman Cochran. All and all it will be a better team next year regardless of who the coach is, including Kerry. Also Kerry sticking it out with this team earns him some browny points after the Kevin Jackson Iowa state fiasco. Nothing is worse than a coach quitting when the going gets tough.

If Kerry stays as the coach we have a chance of being good again, but potentially being good may be as far as we get with Kerry and the current makeup of the staff. We can be really good and maybe even great if a few things happen though (these aren't listed in any particular order). #1 Kerry moves into administration where wrestling gets an ally that knows of the challenges facing this program in this conference. #2 we increase assistant salaries and go for broke to get great assistants. #3 a new head coach and seeing how it looks like it might be hard to get Kolat I would go for Casey Cunningham with everything we've got. Just like 20 years ago when every school in the Big Ten decided if they couldn't beat Iowa they should join them and hired head coaches from Iowa in droves, I think the same thing will happen with PSU. Sanderson is on to something up there and it's blowing everyone away. UMD can get in on the action early on and I absolutely think they should. The tough sell to Cunningham will be peeling him away from PSU in the middle of a dynasty. But if we allow him to hire good assistants you never know. #4 is alumni support. Regardless who the next coach is we are going to need $$$$ to make this happen and lots of it. We need more people to participate in friends of Maryland wrestling and we need to sell more ticket packages. Obviously a good hire will help boost the bottom line but as alumni we have to know we have a responsibility in this as well. The next month should be interesting. Go Terps!!!
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby GoTerps1 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:46 pm

There is no performance based argument that can be put forward to justify retaining Kerry as HC.

He has two AA wrestlers to his credit in 9 years as HC (Asper was a Santoro recruit).

He has won exactly one conference match in 3 seasons: one win and 26 losses.

The recruiting failures at this point are legion.

If Kerry was going to win at Maryland, he'd have done it by now.

Santoro is evidence that wrestling success can be had at Maryland. Kerry just can't do the job.

It's more than time for Maryland to move on.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby Terpfan » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:49 pm

I imagine that the athletic department is waiting till after the April Awards dinner to make an announcement, although I hope they have already made a decision. With Santoro interviewing at Pitt, Lehigh might be in play. I would hope that Maryland has a solid plan to get someone.

Likewise I have heard nothing about any of the decommits or transfers mentioning Maryland, who can almost use someone at every weight. Alarming as well as a Maryland fan and local wrestling fan that both Kurt McHenry and Aaron Brooks are being courted by Penn State. ugh.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby ne125 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:21 am

At this point, my guess is the Kerry McCoy is going to be UMD’s coach in 2017-18. If they were going to let him go, I don’t see why they would wait this long to announce it which leads me to believe that they are keeping him but who knows under what conditions and terms. Kerry’s boss, Tyler Mariucci, just announced he was moving onto U. of San Diego. This guy has one foot out the door so it’s hard to imagine he gave the wrestling transition plan much thought or action. As for Kevin Anderson, when was the last time he’s been a Terps wrestling match? I’ve been to a bunch of matches over the past few seasons and I have never seen him once. He did goto Nationals in Philly back 2011 but that’s the last I remember seeing him around. I could see him choosing the path of least resistance and just keeping Kerry on but not giving him the resources to succeed. He’s bumbled a few hires in both football and basketball why would anyone have confidence he could get it right with wrestling? You’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt but it’s obvious that he is okay with the status quo. Yes, Kerry is at fault for the state of our program, no one can deny that However, administrators should be investing more in the wrestling program. We went to the big ten and there is supposed to be this economic windfall. You look at the investment so many administrations have made in wrestling and we still don’t pay assistants like we need to. Kerry desperately needs/needed a well-respected full time, top assistant, who stays for a significant time period that is comparable to some of the ones that our peers have. Look at Robie at VT, Beasley at NCSU, Pritzlaff at Rutgers, Dillon/John Hughes at Lehigh, Leen at UVA etc etc etc. All are well respected in the wrestling world and have been loyal assistants for years. Since Beckerman, we had Tyrone Lewis, then Eiter and now Sheptock. Back in the day our second assistants had some good wrestling pedigree and could beat up on the guys in the room (e.g. Jason Powell and Brandon Sinnott). Nothing against Catullo, but that doesn’t exactly describe his strengths. As for guys like McHenry and Brooks, they will be another in a long line of in-state Maryland kids who figure their likelihood of success is better elsewhere. With a 2-16 record this year, a coach who is in limbo, and enthusiasm for the program waning, who can blame them? If they are going to commit to Kerry, they should do what they can to help him succeed instead of stringing him along. Something needs to change whether it’s a new head coach or Kerry getting atleast one new assistant. We should be improved next year but we desperately need to stockpile the program with better recruits or else 9th or 10th in the big ten is our peak. Getting these national prep placer/New York state runner up types are not cutting it.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby meats » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:05 pm

This program just cannot catch a break and the beat goes on. What are the chances that the AD assistant responsible for wrestling and most knowledgeable about the results, departs the same time a tough but a critically needed decision must be made about retaining the head coach? I just find it incredible that there could be any question with a 5 year record of 14-8, 9-8, 5-15, 5-15 and 2-16. As has been previously stated, if Kerry was going to win with his recruits, he would have done it by now. I cannot accept another year with the same tired excuses as to why we can't win. May I point out that we have only one recruit in Cochran coming in this year with a serious national pedigree. That's one. Further we only had one wrestler that had a good redshirt year in Cray and he did not exactly face a murderers row. I refuse to count on Goodwin for anything. Bannister struggles with ranked wrestlers. Diehl was shocking at the B1G's... where did that come from, but can it continue? Kerry has driven all the optimism and hope for the future out of me gradually and painfully over the last 5 years. Another year with him at the helm is too distressful to ponder. Great balls of unmitigated fire.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby CJC » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:00 pm

I'm a huge supporter of Kerry McCoy, but he doesn't deserve to be coaching at UMD.

Maryland has gotten progressively worse under McCoy. They don't seem to be a competitive D1 team.

It's past time for a change.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby GoTerps1 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:38 am

It is past time for a change. But even if the administration was inclined to keep Kerry, this is not the way to do it. Making him a lame duck coach last year and not having a deal in place for him this year only succeeded in hurting two recruiting seasons. Conversely, if you were going to make a change in the hopes of landing the best coach available then, again, that move would need to have happened immediately after the season. So it looks to me like the administration has screwed up BOTH options. Indecision and delay reflect poor administrative oversight of the program.
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby ne125 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:56 am

I just got word yesterday morning that Kerry signed a one year extension. Who in the heck knows what Kevin Anderson is thinking. Either find a new head coach who can generate enthusiasm and get the program to a higher level or give Kerry a meaningful extension and many more resources to succeed. Anderson is holding the program hostage with this move. Does he really need one more year to decide what direction he wants to go in? Isn’t there enough meaningful data to make a longer term decision right now? Talk about taking the easy way out. Maybe he’s on his way out as well and doesn’t feel like dealing with it. I am almost just as surprised that Kerry would sign on for this. Talk about sitting in limbo. How can he sell the future of the program to prospective recruits when his future is so uncertain? I actually feel bad for Kerry. How can Kerry make a much needed upgrade his staff when everyone knows it's a risky 1 year proposition ? On paper we should be better next year but with the injuries and unexplained absences, who knows how much improvement we'll see. The problem is going to be in 4-5 years when Kerry's lame duck coach status contributed to the result of only having Brandon Cray and Kyle Cochran as top 100 recruits over 2 classes. This upcoming fall he'll be in the same situation, recruiting in an unenviable position of not being able to give a clear picture of what the future holds for the program. You know every D1 coach we're up against for a kid is using this ammunition. Unfortunately, everyone (especially Kerry) is at the mercy of this poor administration. So that'll leave us with potentially three recruiting cycles without a huge influx of talent. This year's freshmen class had Cray who did well and Vargas who showed potential before struggling badly and that's it. I don't think one other true freshmen showed any inclination to becoming a D1 starter. In next year's class, Cochran is a stud. Mansur Malik and Betroni are decent and then it falls off again. We are mostly pretty young so don't likely have much money coming off the books so the 2018 class, with Kerry's limbo status is setting up to be another disappointment. This will rear it's ugly head 4-5 year down the road again. Way to go Kevin Anderson!
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Re: Maryland 2017

Postby fitzi22 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:47 am

Wow. That is probably the worst possible outcome. What this decision says to me is the administration wanted to give Kerry a longer deal but weren't totally on board with it simply based on the end of year results. So they take the easy way out and give him a 1 year deal to see if he can duplicate the end of year results. If that's all they want (4 qualifiers and a round of 12 guy) I'm pretty sure we can achieve that if not exceed. Heck it wouldn't shock me if we had 5 or even 6 qualifiers (although 6 would require a healthy Goodwin which we know is crazy). This doesn't mean we will be a good team or really even a competitive team in the Big Ten. This is the administration setting it up to force themselves to bring Kerry back. NE is right in the assessment of handicapping our recruiting. I would be shocked if we landed even even 1 top 100 recruit this this year as the only $$ coming off the books is Goodwin and the constant limbo situation with a below average performing coaching staff. Honestly I'm surprised we were able to land and keep Cochran. The decision today shows the administration is comfortable where the status of our program is. That is sad. NE is right, we will be average for 2 more years, heck we might even luck out with an AA or 2 but we will then fall on hard times for about 3 years and start this cycle over again. I for one am tired of it and was really looking forward to the administration to make a commitment to excellence. Maybe we don't think we can land a coach that's any better. Maybe we don't have the resources to commit to the program. Maybe we think this is as good as we will ever be, who knows. It would be great to know the inner workings of this poor decision but I doubt we ever will. All I know is we will miss out on another good crop of home grown talent in Ethan Smith, kurt mchenry and Aaron brooks as we watch our best instate talent stock our big ten rivals (especially Ohio state) and we get the left overs from wherever we can get them. Heck most of our top recruits have been academic nightmares. Diehl, Josh Lopez, shy brown, Lou Hernandez, tk megonigal (I'm sure I'm missing a few others) all missed some if not all of their eligibility due to academics. What are we rewarding here? This 1 year deal kills me in so many different ways. What were they thinking?

New slogan: UMD where mediocrity, regression and poor grades are okay. Go Terps
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